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		<title>By: Anthony</title>
		<link>http://www.business2.com.au/2007/03/what-can-newspapers-do-now/#comment-1854</link>
		<dc:creator>Anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 10:56:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not optional it&#039;s the same offering Domain has - exactly the same.

REA really should kick you off their site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not optional it&#8217;s the same offering Domain has &#8211; exactly the same.</p>
<p>REA really should kick you off their site.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Simeon</title>
		<link>http://www.business2.com.au/2007/03/what-can-newspapers-do-now/#comment-1853</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Simeon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 10:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Danny,

Thanks mate - it looks like REA were not actually sure what they offer clients. The transition from online tours was not conveyed to agents with videos.

I find it quite amazing that it takes dialogue here to establish their positioning - when REA can&#039;t advise those paying clients what their property portal actually offers.

I guess so long as you are paid up, REA see no need to update agents on optional extras.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Danny,</p>
<p>Thanks mate &#8211; it looks like REA were not actually sure what they offer clients. The transition from online tours was not conveyed to agents with videos.</p>
<p>I find it quite amazing that it takes dialogue here to establish their positioning &#8211; when REA can&#8217;t advise those paying clients what their property portal actually offers.</p>
<p>I guess so long as you are paid up, REA see no need to update agents on optional extras.</p>
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		<title>By: Danny</title>
		<link>http://www.business2.com.au/2007/03/what-can-newspapers-do-now/#comment-1852</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 17:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert - &quot;Danny, out of interest - how many videos have you uploaded on REA ?&quot;

We have probably uploaded 10 - 15 videos.

I am far from an expert on the intricacies of the internet, but it appears to me that both rea and domain have had the ability to have videos for some time.

As I see it (and my technical terminology may be wrong), both rea and domain don&#039;t &quot;host&quot; the videos, they merely provide the link to open an external site where the videos are hosted.

On the rea site the button is labelled &quot;On Line Tour&quot;, and domain label theirs &quot;Virtual Tour&quot; - in both instances clicking the button opens a new window to an external site.

I suspect you may be confusing my comments above with the adoreproperty website which appears to &quot;host&quot; the videos (ie: a new external window doesn&#039;t open) and the videos have a &quot;youtube&quot; look and feel when activating the video.

Anyway, they&#039;re my observations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert &#8211; &#8220;Danny, out of interest &#8211; how many videos have you uploaded on REA ?&#8221;</p>
<p>We have probably uploaded 10 &#8211; 15 videos.</p>
<p>I am far from an expert on the intricacies of the internet, but it appears to me that both rea and domain have had the ability to have videos for some time.</p>
<p>As I see it (and my technical terminology may be wrong), both rea and domain don&#8217;t &#8220;host&#8221; the videos, they merely provide the link to open an external site where the videos are hosted.</p>
<p>On the rea site the button is labelled &#8220;On Line Tour&#8221;, and domain label theirs &#8220;Virtual Tour&#8221; &#8211; in both instances clicking the button opens a new window to an external site.</p>
<p>I suspect you may be confusing my comments above with the adoreproperty website which appears to &#8220;host&#8221; the videos (ie: a new external window doesn&#8217;t open) and the videos have a &#8220;youtube&#8221; look and feel when activating the video.</p>
<p>Anyway, they&#8217;re my observations.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Buick</title>
		<link>http://www.business2.com.au/2007/03/what-can-newspapers-do-now/#comment-1851</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Buick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 04:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I been using RealEstate.com.au for many many many years and wrote one of the earliest XML systems to integrate with them many years ago.

As far back as I can remember - they&#039;ve always supported &#039;TOURS&#039;. Which I think is where the confusion is coming from.

A TOUR has traditionally been a VR tour. You could always stick one of these into your listing with RealEstate.com.au from a 3rd party server. Now... with the advent of fast connectivity... we&#039;re able to stream hi-speed VIDEO tours. Which (from what I gather) domain store locally on their servers - much like youtube, etc.

While RealEstate.com.au has always been able to display a link TO a tour (of any kind, VR or VIDEO) provided the actual media is stored off-site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I been using RealEstate.com.au for many many many years and wrote one of the earliest XML systems to integrate with them many years ago.</p>
<p>As far back as I can remember &#8211; they&#8217;ve always supported &#8216;TOURS&#8217;. Which I think is where the confusion is coming from.</p>
<p>A TOUR has traditionally been a VR tour. You could always stick one of these into your listing with RealEstate.com.au from a 3rd party server. Now&#8230; with the advent of fast connectivity&#8230; we&#8217;re able to stream hi-speed VIDEO tours. Which (from what I gather) domain store locally on their servers &#8211; much like youtube, etc.</p>
<p>While RealEstate.com.au has always been able to display a link TO a tour (of any kind, VR or VIDEO) provided the actual media is stored off-site.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Simeon</title>
		<link>http://www.business2.com.au/2007/03/what-can-newspapers-do-now/#comment-1850</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Simeon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2007 10:48:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Danny
Mar 20th, 2007 at 4:08 am  /
&quot;Robert, I think you are rather harsh on REA.

They have had the the ability to upload videos from quite some time to the best of my knowledge - afterall - it is only an external link.&quot;


Danny, harsh no !! All that know me acknowledge that I don&#039;t come &quot;sugar coated&quot;. Domain, recently advised agents that they can now upload videos on their site.

Amazing that REA obviously advised some and not others, I stand corrected on this however, if their monthly subscriptions can go out on time to all agents. The same can&#039;t be said for advising agents that they now offer video uploads.

Unless, (blush) Domain awoke REA when they announced that this facility was available to their subscribers.

Danny, out of interest - how many videos have you uploaded on REA ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Danny<br />
Mar 20th, 2007 at 4:08 am  /<br />
&#8220;Robert, I think you are rather harsh on REA.</p>
<p>They have had the the ability to upload videos from quite some time to the best of my knowledge &#8211; afterall &#8211; it is only an external link.&#8221;</p>
<p>Danny, harsh no !! All that know me acknowledge that I don&#8217;t come &#8220;sugar coated&#8221;. Domain, recently advised agents that they can now upload videos on their site.</p>
<p>Amazing that REA obviously advised some and not others, I stand corrected on this however, if their monthly subscriptions can go out on time to all agents. The same can&#8217;t be said for advising agents that they now offer video uploads.</p>
<p>Unless, (blush) Domain awoke REA when they announced that this facility was available to their subscribers.</p>
<p>Danny, out of interest &#8211; how many videos have you uploaded on REA ?</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Simeon</title>
		<link>http://www.business2.com.au/2007/03/what-can-newspapers-do-now/#comment-1849</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Simeon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2007 08:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Dave,

I have just two simple questions,

1. When REA made this video facility available why did they not advise the agents ?

2. Or, was it a soft recent launch because Domain beat REA to the video launch ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Dave,</p>
<p>I have just two simple questions,</p>
<p>1. When REA made this video facility available why did they not advise the agents ?</p>
<p>2. Or, was it a soft recent launch because Domain beat REA to the video launch ?</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Platter</title>
		<link>http://www.business2.com.au/2007/03/what-can-newspapers-do-now/#comment-1848</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Platter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2007 01:53:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(I work at realestate.com.au/the REA Group)

Sorry if this comment is a duplicate; I&#039;m having an issue with comments from Firefox.

Danny&#039;s right, agents have been posting videos on realestate.com.au for I don&#039;t even know how long now. I first mentioned it on this blog in Nov or so, if my memory is any good. (It isn&#039;t.) Robert, you&#039;re just a bit misinformed about that.

Here&#039;s one recent listing with a video I especially like. Lots of agent branding in it:

http://www.realestate.com.au/cgi-bin/rsearch?a=o&amp;id=103777914&amp;f=0&amp;p=10&amp;t=res&amp;ty=&amp;fmt=&amp;header=&amp;c=60131623&amp;s=nsw&amp;tm=1174354606

Just click on the link for online tour. If anyone needs any help with video, I&#039;m sure your www.realestate.com.au salesperson or the customer care center can help you make it work.

Dave</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(I work at realestate.com.au/the REA Group)</p>
<p>Sorry if this comment is a duplicate; I&#8217;m having an issue with comments from Firefox.</p>
<p>Danny&#8217;s right, agents have been posting videos on realestate.com.au for I don&#8217;t even know how long now. I first mentioned it on this blog in Nov or so, if my memory is any good. (It isn&#8217;t.) Robert, you&#8217;re just a bit misinformed about that.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s one recent listing with a video I especially like. Lots of agent branding in it:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.realestate.com.au/cgi-bin/rsearch?a=o&#038;id=103777914&#038;f=0&#038;p=10&#038;t=res&#038;ty=&#038;fmt=&#038;header=&#038;c=60131623&#038;s=nsw&#038;tm=1174354606" rel="nofollow">http://www.realestate.com.au/cgi-bin/rsearch?a=o&#038;id=103777914&#038;f=0&#038;p=10&#038;t=res&#038;ty=&#038;fmt=&#038;header=&#038;c=60131623&#038;s=nsw&#038;tm=1174354606</a></p>
<p>Just click on the link for online tour. If anyone needs any help with video, I&#8217;m sure your <a href="http://www.realestate.com.au" rel="nofollow">http://www.realestate.com.au</a> salesperson or the customer care center can help you make it work.</p>
<p>Dave</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Buick</title>
		<link>http://www.business2.com.au/2007/03/what-can-newspapers-do-now/#comment-1847</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Buick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 21:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;Little Application&quot; actually uploads the videos onto a (3rd party) server, as you probably had to do manually (and most agents would struggle to understand how) - embeds the advertising and generates an output URL that triggers an online player window via the V-Tour popup. So it is nessisary for my client because if it wasn&#039;t there you&#039;d simply end up with a WMV file - no online storage - no revenue stream - no compatibility with RealEstate.com.au.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;Little Application&#8221; actually uploads the videos onto a (3rd party) server, as you probably had to do manually (and most agents would struggle to understand how) &#8211; embeds the advertising and generates an output URL that triggers an online player window via the V-Tour popup. So it is nessisary for my client because if it wasn&#8217;t there you&#8217;d simply end up with a WMV file &#8211; no online storage &#8211; no revenue stream &#8211; no compatibility with RealEstate.com.au.</p>
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		<title>By: Danny</title>
		<link>http://www.business2.com.au/2007/03/what-can-newspapers-do-now/#comment-1846</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 17:08:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert, I think you are rather harsh on REA.

They have had the the ability to upload videos from quite some time to the best of my knowledge - afterall - it is only an external link.

Refer below property for example:-

http://www.realestate.com.au/cgi-bin/rsearch?a=o&amp;id=103707847&amp;f=60&amp;p=10&amp;t=res&amp;ty=&amp;fmt=&amp;header=&amp;c=91681496&amp;s=nsw&amp;tm=1174323359

then &quot;click&quot; on &quot;Online Tour&quot; button - and there it is .... a video.

Additionally, we didn&#039;t need any &quot;little application&quot; to upload successfully.!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert, I think you are rather harsh on REA.</p>
<p>They have had the the ability to upload videos from quite some time to the best of my knowledge &#8211; afterall &#8211; it is only an external link.</p>
<p>Refer below property for example:-</p>
<p><a href="http://www.realestate.com.au/cgi-bin/rsearch?a=o&#038;id=103707847&#038;f=60&#038;p=10&#038;t=res&#038;ty=&#038;fmt=&#038;header=&#038;c=91681496&#038;s=nsw&#038;tm=1174323359" rel="nofollow">http://www.realestate.com.au/cgi-bin/rsearch?a=o&#038;id=103707847&#038;f=60&#038;p=10&#038;t=res&#038;ty=&#038;fmt=&#038;header=&#038;c=91681496&#038;s=nsw&#038;tm=1174323359</a></p>
<p>then &#8220;click&#8221; on &#8220;Online Tour&#8221; button &#8211; and there it is &#8230;. a video.</p>
<p>Additionally, we didn&#8217;t need any &#8220;little application&#8221; to upload successfully.!</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Buick</title>
		<link>http://www.business2.com.au/2007/03/what-can-newspapers-do-now/#comment-1798</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Buick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 12:21:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They probably hoping the whole thing will just go away. Video tours take up MASSIVE amounts of server space. Thats why our model works with REA already - they store the tour file itself offsite on client hardware - not REA servers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They probably hoping the whole thing will just go away. Video tours take up MASSIVE amounts of server space. Thats why our model works with REA already &#8211; they store the tour file itself offsite on client hardware &#8211; not REA servers.</p>
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