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		<title>By: Peter Ricci</title>
		<link>http://www.business2.com.au/2008/02/2008-to-do-list/comment-page-1/#comment-3393</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Ricci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 05:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Craig

I already know this and so does the client. I have forwarded these comments to the design company.

Regards Peter</description>
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<p>I already know this and so does the client. I have forwarded these comments to the design company.</p>
<p>Regards Peter</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
		<link>http://www.business2.com.au/2008/02/2008-to-do-list/comment-page-1/#comment-3392</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 05:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tried to have a look at Ray White Annandale but unfortunately was just presented with a blank white page. Maybe being &#039;Ray White&#039; thats what they wanted, but I suspect not. If you don&#039;t have flash enabled in the browser which I don&#039;t in Firefox at work then it seems impossible to get into the site (without going View Source and looking for the url to the index page).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried to have a look at Ray White Annandale but unfortunately was just presented with a blank white page. Maybe being &#8216;Ray White&#8217; thats what they wanted, but I suspect not. If you don&#8217;t have flash enabled in the browser which I don&#8217;t in Firefox at work then it seems impossible to get into the site (without going View Source and looking for the url to the index page).</p>
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		<title>By: Slimey</title>
		<link>http://www.business2.com.au/2008/02/2008-to-do-list/comment-page-1/#comment-3382</link>
		<dc:creator>Slimey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 01:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh i agree that the site looks good. I was looking through your portfolio and that really jumped out to me. But when i found the splash page i almost left without checking the actual site.

I have tried to explain issues in design to people and can totally understand everything you are saying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh i agree that the site looks good. I was looking through your portfolio and that really jumped out to me. But when i found the splash page i almost left without checking the actual site.</p>
<p>I have tried to explain issues in design to people and can totally understand everything you are saying.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Ricci</title>
		<link>http://www.business2.com.au/2008/02/2008-to-do-list/comment-page-1/#comment-3394</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Ricci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 22:43:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Slimey

It sometimes comes down to a commercial decision, do you fight for what you believe in and keep fighting delaying a project and upsetting your client? Or do you eventually give in to their demands.

I do remind them every time I speak with them that they should remove it, but they are the bosses and it is their decision. I think the site looks great apart from that splash page.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Slimey</p>
<p>It sometimes comes down to a commercial decision, do you fight for what you believe in and keep fighting delaying a project and upsetting your client? Or do you eventually give in to their demands.</p>
<p>I do remind them every time I speak with them that they should remove it, but they are the bosses and it is their decision. I think the site looks great apart from that splash page.</p>
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		<title>By: Slimey</title>
		<link>http://www.business2.com.au/2008/02/2008-to-do-list/comment-page-1/#comment-3395</link>
		<dc:creator>Slimey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 22:37:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its annoying having to give in to clients that dont listen to the advice you give.

Its like they don&#039;t trust the web designer they hired.
I do agree that sometimes you have to give in to keep the client happy.

As a fellow web designer i try and pride myself on making website that are up to standards and are very accessible. Accessibility was one aspect you didn&#039;t mention.

But cant please them all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its annoying having to give in to clients that dont listen to the advice you give.</p>
<p>Its like they don&#8217;t trust the web designer they hired.<br />
I do agree that sometimes you have to give in to keep the client happy.</p>
<p>As a fellow web designer i try and pride myself on making website that are up to standards and are very accessible. Accessibility was one aspect you didn&#8217;t mention.</p>
<p>But cant please them all.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Ricci</title>
		<link>http://www.business2.com.au/2008/02/2008-to-do-list/comment-page-1/#comment-3384</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Ricci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 23:28:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh and by the way Slimey. I do know who you work for and I hope your real estate web development arm continues to boom. :) Have a great day!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh and by the way Slimey. I do know who you work for and I hope your real estate web development arm continues to boom. :) Have a great day!</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Ricci</title>
		<link>http://www.business2.com.au/2008/02/2008-to-do-list/comment-page-1/#comment-3385</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Ricci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 23:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Slimey. Sometimes in life you put up a fight with clients and you lose. My company actually had nothing to do with that, as you will see from the credits in the footer.

But thank you for the lovely comment Slimey, good to see people investigating things further. In fact I have 3 clients with splash pages.

The Ray White Annandale site I like all except for the splash page. S0 I do demo it on my clients but jump past it from the link, the others (and many more) I do not link to or promote on my website as I do not like them.

So good to see you on this site Slimey and hope to hear more from you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Slimey. Sometimes in life you put up a fight with clients and you lose. My company actually had nothing to do with that, as you will see from the credits in the footer.</p>
<p>But thank you for the lovely comment Slimey, good to see people investigating things further. In fact I have 3 clients with splash pages.</p>
<p>The Ray White Annandale site I like all except for the splash page. S0 I do demo it on my clients but jump past it from the link, the others (and many more) I do not link to or promote on my website as I do not like them.</p>
<p>So good to see you on this site Slimey and hope to hear more from you!</p>
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		<title>By: Slimey</title>
		<link>http://www.business2.com.au/2008/02/2008-to-do-list/comment-page-1/#comment-3386</link>
		<dc:creator>Slimey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 22:36:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Dump any resemblance of a splash page&quot; i love seeing this in practice. The Ray White Annandale Website looks so SPRUCED UP. Way to follow your own advice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Dump any resemblance of a splash page&#8221; i love seeing this in practice. The Ray White Annandale Website looks so SPRUCED UP. Way to follow your own advice.</p>
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		<title>By: Max</title>
		<link>http://www.business2.com.au/2008/02/2008-to-do-list/comment-page-1/#comment-3383</link>
		<dc:creator>Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 23:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One critical point that has been overlooked in the brand recognition comments above is what was the ad on the banner about?

Was it a call to action banner so you would then look for click through? Was the selling message a strong one and a great reason to click on the banner?

Or was the ad a standard shot of the agents face and hence branding themselves? There is nothing about this type of banner that screams click me so you couldnt expect a high click through rate.

So it may appear that the agent paid $60 a click, with brand recognition was the answer from the rep and this could be spot on and money well spent.

show us the ad?

Also on the point about internet portals charges, i notice that no one mentions how many sales the interet gets them and the $$$ made from it? its by far the most cost effective medium that an agent has to list and sell properties.

Portal fees may have gone up but so have agent commissions with the rise in property values but i dont hear anyone complaining about that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One critical point that has been overlooked in the brand recognition comments above is what was the ad on the banner about?</p>
<p>Was it a call to action banner so you would then look for click through? Was the selling message a strong one and a great reason to click on the banner?</p>
<p>Or was the ad a standard shot of the agents face and hence branding themselves? There is nothing about this type of banner that screams click me so you couldnt expect a high click through rate.</p>
<p>So it may appear that the agent paid $60 a click, with brand recognition was the answer from the rep and this could be spot on and money well spent.</p>
<p>show us the ad?</p>
<p>Also on the point about internet portals charges, i notice that no one mentions how many sales the interet gets them and the $$$ made from it? its by far the most cost effective medium that an agent has to list and sell properties.</p>
<p>Portal fees may have gone up but so have agent commissions with the rise in property values but i dont hear anyone complaining about that?</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn Batten</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glenn Batten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 10:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>REA is just about a business necessity in runnng a real estate agency today.  Thats a fact I doubt many could dispute with maybe the exception of some areas in Sydney where Domain offers some market penetration.

If it was not such a business necessity they would not be able to get away with such tactics... I just believe they take it to far but thats a typical corporate mentality and if I was a major shareholder I am sure the change in perspective would provide a different opinion  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>REA is just about a business necessity in runnng a real estate agency today.  Thats a fact I doubt many could dispute with maybe the exception of some areas in Sydney where Domain offers some market penetration.</p>
<p>If it was not such a business necessity they would not be able to get away with such tactics&#8230; I just believe they take it to far but thats a typical corporate mentality and if I was a major shareholder I am sure the change in perspective would provide a different opinion  :)</p>
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