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		<title>By: lol'ing spectator</title>
		<link>http://www.business2.com.au/2008/09/myhome-under-renovation/#comment-4200</link>
		<dc:creator>lol'ing spectator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 22:17:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Real Estate Industry as a whole is doomed to stay in the dark ages because there is no collaboration or communal interest in seeing the best result for all concerned.

Short term interests are served before all else.

Small business owners &amp; minds...

When will this cycle end?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Real Estate Industry as a whole is doomed to stay in the dark ages because there is no collaboration or communal interest in seeing the best result for all concerned.</p>
<p>Short term interests are served before all else.</p>
<p>Small business owners &amp; minds&#8230;</p>
<p>When will this cycle end?</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Simeon</title>
		<link>http://www.business2.com.au/2008/09/myhome-under-renovation/#comment-4191</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Simeon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 00:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My understanding is that the direct feed application is due for release either later this year or early next year. We will be using this application (once available) in our website that Peter is developing which hopefully is just a few weeks away from going live :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My understanding is that the direct feed application is due for release either later this year or early next year. We will be using this application (once available) in our website that Peter is developing which hopefully is just a few weeks away from going live <img src='http://www.business2.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Glenn Batten</title>
		<link>http://www.business2.com.au/2008/09/myhome-under-renovation/#comment-4199</link>
		<dc:creator>Glenn Batten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 09:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nick,
You honestly think they wont try ??  or at least think about it??..  I know for a fact the other side of the coin is true ... groups are going/have gone to a direct google feed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick,<br />
You honestly think they wont try ??  or at least think about it??..  I know for a fact the other side of the coin is true &#8230; groups are going/have gone to a direct google feed.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Buick</title>
		<link>http://www.business2.com.au/2008/09/myhome-under-renovation/#comment-4198</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Buick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 07:04:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glenn - hahaha, Domain or REA should put you on the payrole... that idea is so devilishly evil, I&#039;m surprised they haven&#039;t thought of / started doing this themselves, already.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glenn &#8211; hahaha, Domain or REA should put you on the payrole&#8230; that idea is so devilishly evil, I&#8217;m surprised they haven&#8217;t thought of / started doing this themselves, already.</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn Batten</title>
		<link>http://www.business2.com.au/2008/09/myhome-under-renovation/#comment-4197</link>
		<dc:creator>Glenn Batten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 06:21:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SSSR,

What effect this will have at the end of the day is anybody&#039;s guess.  The good news as far as I can see is that it cant harm the situation as far as agents and consumers are concerned, it can only make it better by providing downward pressure on the subscriptions of the current portals.

For plain vanilla horizontal search Google is King and even more so here in Australia where it dominates the local search market place. If you need more than plain vanilla horizontal search for real estate, you have to go vertical which is where the current portals come into play. Whilst you cant rule anything out, Google will probably not invade the vertical space however through their api&#039;s they will probably let others use their data to construct real estate vertical solutions. It is these mashups that will probably compete directly with REA and Domain however because they utilise Google&#039;s database of listings they can do so with virtually no outlay. No huge sales staff required, no executive salary packages to pay for, no massive hardware solutions required. The portals will possibly find a lot more competition in the vertical space with no one site having their market share but collectively it may be a different story.  Like an invasion of fire ants, each single bite hurts but is more of an annoyance, but  a whole colony can inflict massive injury.

Google will integrate your listings into their horizontal search products. Search for an actual address, and you will be offered to look at the properties for sale around that address. Search for Nerang real estate and they will offer to show you properties for sale or for rent in Nerang.

The question for all of the subscription or ad-supported vertical real estate portals (including those potential mashup sites) is if their added-value is enough to induce home searchers to click through to their site </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SSSR,</p>
<p>What effect this will have at the end of the day is anybody&#8217;s guess.  The good news as far as I can see is that it cant harm the situation as far as agents and consumers are concerned, it can only make it better by providing downward pressure on the subscriptions of the current portals.</p>
<p>For plain vanilla horizontal search Google is King and even more so here in Australia where it dominates the local search market place. If you need more than plain vanilla horizontal search for real estate, you have to go vertical which is where the current portals come into play. Whilst you cant rule anything out, Google will probably not invade the vertical space however through their api&#8217;s they will probably let others use their data to construct real estate vertical solutions. It is these mashups that will probably compete directly with REA and Domain however because they utilise Google&#8217;s database of listings they can do so with virtually no outlay. No huge sales staff required, no executive salary packages to pay for, no massive hardware solutions required. The portals will possibly find a lot more competition in the vertical space with no one site having their market share but collectively it may be a different story.  Like an invasion of fire ants, each single bite hurts but is more of an annoyance, but  a whole colony can inflict massive injury.</p>
<p>Google will integrate your listings into their horizontal search products. Search for an actual address, and you will be offered to look at the properties for sale around that address. Search for Nerang real estate and they will offer to show you properties for sale or for rent in Nerang.</p>
<p>The question for all of the subscription or ad-supported vertical real estate portals (including those potential mashup sites) is if their added-value is enough to induce home searchers to click through to their site</p>
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		<title>By: SSSR</title>
		<link>http://www.business2.com.au/2008/09/myhome-under-renovation/#comment-4196</link>
		<dc:creator>SSSR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 05:36:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glenn,

Appreciate your explaination, I now understand the benefits and thus the anticipation from an Agent perspective.

I was looking at it from which service I would prefer to use as a consumer.  I like portals because they provide some value added services, like home alerts, aggregated content from multiple agencies and filtered search interface, all wrapped up in one location.

From what I can gather, the portals would still be the major source of leads, but Google organic search would increase in value for agencies via Google Base.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glenn,</p>
<p>Appreciate your explaination, I now understand the benefits and thus the anticipation from an Agent perspective.</p>
<p>I was looking at it from which service I would prefer to use as a consumer.  I like portals because they provide some value added services, like home alerts, aggregated content from multiple agencies and filtered search interface, all wrapped up in one location.</p>
<p>From what I can gather, the portals would still be the major source of leads, but Google organic search would increase in value for agencies via Google Base.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
		<link>http://www.business2.com.au/2008/09/myhome-under-renovation/#comment-4195</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 05:19:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glenn,

I think a central hosted data source with a web API would be the preferred model. It would make it much easier for third-parties to build upon. The more free and open the better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glenn,</p>
<p>I think a central hosted data source with a web API would be the preferred model. It would make it much easier for third-parties to build upon. The more free and open the better.</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn Batten</title>
		<link>http://www.business2.com.au/2008/09/myhome-under-renovation/#comment-4194</link>
		<dc:creator>Glenn Batten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 03:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Craig,

That exact thing has been discussed on here before. Peter Ricci actually posted an open letter asking for interested parties and got a great response but he is the one to tell you where that has moved forward to.

There were two lines of thought. One on an xml standard that all industry participants could agree on and use. This could be put in place fairly easily I would think as long as it had the support of the majority and the majors.

The second train of thought that I certainly preferred was a central data storage. That would be expensive and quite an undertaking so would require &quot;sponsorship&quot; by somebody.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Craig,</p>
<p>That exact thing has been discussed on here before. Peter Ricci actually posted an open letter asking for interested parties and got a great response but he is the one to tell you where that has moved forward to.</p>
<p>There were two lines of thought. One on an xml standard that all industry participants could agree on and use. This could be put in place fairly easily I would think as long as it had the support of the majority and the majors.</p>
<p>The second train of thought that I certainly preferred was a central data storage. That would be expensive and quite an undertaking so would require &#8220;sponsorship&#8221; by somebody.</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn Batten</title>
		<link>http://www.business2.com.au/2008/09/myhome-under-renovation/#comment-4193</link>
		<dc:creator>Glenn Batten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 03:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SSSR,

Google Base has 5 million properties in the US. The US market has huge numbers of portals, so much so that the biggest, realtor.com has only a 4.5% market share.

Because the market is so fractured it is hard for anybody to get a good marketshare.

I believe that loading Australian properties up to the Google Base now before the Australian version is released would only give limited results but I have never tried it so I dont really know. Maybe the agents are using it more for a point of difference when listing properties, maybe they do get buyers enquries. They are yet not getting the added benefits that an Australian version would bring (ie. integration in SERPS and Maps)... but there are a lot of agencies that do it..  It could just be a case of preparing for the Australian version they have everything hooked up, so its a simple matter of sending them to the US and UK databases.... so why not. It costs nothing and can only give positive results..

An Australian Google Base brings all of the extra integration that in mind makes it all worth it.

As to a launch in Australia its inevitable of course as Australians love Google and vice versa. You just have to look at the recent Google StreetView to see that.  Look at how much of Australia they covered.

Getting a hold of the real estate data should not be a problem either. If they can make arrangements with the top 15 real estate groups it only really leaves independents and many of those operate through a handful of web/xml companies and I know one of those responsible for a sizable percentage of all Australian agencies already has the data connection in place ready to go.

Google Base versions released so far have been the US, UK and Germany. Australia is a natural progression and it is only a matter of time I think.. Peter might have some news real soon on the outlook of Google Base in Australia :)

I would be asking my head office or my xml providor if they have a connection in place ready to go should the service be released. The api is available so there should be nothing stopping them preparing to feed data.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SSSR,</p>
<p>Google Base has 5 million properties in the US. The US market has huge numbers of portals, so much so that the biggest, realtor.com has only a 4.5% market share.</p>
<p>Because the market is so fractured it is hard for anybody to get a good marketshare.</p>
<p>I believe that loading Australian properties up to the Google Base now before the Australian version is released would only give limited results but I have never tried it so I dont really know. Maybe the agents are using it more for a point of difference when listing properties, maybe they do get buyers enquries. They are yet not getting the added benefits that an Australian version would bring (ie. integration in SERPS and Maps)&#8230; but there are a lot of agencies that do it..  It could just be a case of preparing for the Australian version they have everything hooked up, so its a simple matter of sending them to the US and UK databases&#8230;. so why not. It costs nothing and can only give positive results..</p>
<p>An Australian Google Base brings all of the extra integration that in mind makes it all worth it.</p>
<p>As to a launch in Australia its inevitable of course as Australians love Google and vice versa. You just have to look at the recent Google StreetView to see that.  Look at how much of Australia they covered.</p>
<p>Getting a hold of the real estate data should not be a problem either. If they can make arrangements with the top 15 real estate groups it only really leaves independents and many of those operate through a handful of web/xml companies and I know one of those responsible for a sizable percentage of all Australian agencies already has the data connection in place ready to go.</p>
<p>Google Base versions released so far have been the US, UK and Germany. Australia is a natural progression and it is only a matter of time I think.. Peter might have some news real soon on the outlook of Google Base in Australia <img src='http://www.business2.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I would be asking my head office or my xml providor if they have a connection in place ready to go should the service be released. The api is available so there should be nothing stopping them preparing to feed data.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
		<link>http://www.business2.com.au/2008/09/myhome-under-renovation/#comment-4192</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 03:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What would be good to see would be an open online database that anyone could hook into.  I think if one of the multi-poster companies got involved it would be a huge help. An REST based API could be developed that anyone can query. Basically it would be along the lines of Google Base but that obviously is not available in Australia yet (ever?). I think there would probably need to be some subscription fee along the lines somewhere like a $100 annual fee to agents to finance it all unless it want&#039;s to be financed by industry associations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What would be good to see would be an open online database that anyone could hook into.  I think if one of the multi-poster companies got involved it would be a huge help. An REST based API could be developed that anyone can query. Basically it would be along the lines of Google Base but that obviously is not available in Australia yet (ever?). I think there would probably need to be some subscription fee along the lines somewhere like a $100 annual fee to agents to finance it all unless it want&#8217;s to be financed by industry associations.</p>
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