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		<title>By: Tony Barhoum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony Barhoum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 11:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Dino,

Can you please tell me what  tax laws will be introduced within the next 5 to 10 years? I would like to be ready for them now !

Thank you ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Dino,</p>
<p>Can you please tell me what  tax laws will be introduced within the next 5 to 10 years? I would like to be ready for them now !</p>
<p>Thank you ?</p>
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		<title>By: simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 23:56:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daniel has hit the nail on the head. Policies including negative gearing, increased immigration, relaxation of foreign investment has all impacted on real estate affordability. I have often wondered about the real estate portfolios these dicision makers and thier immediate families own and the potential conflict of interest that seems never to be addressed in any media. The fact is that low to middle income australians are being sacrificed in our &quot;not so lucky country&quot;, and this is only the start, low income earners should be preparing for life on the street.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel has hit the nail on the head. Policies including negative gearing, increased immigration, relaxation of foreign investment has all impacted on real estate affordability. I have often wondered about the real estate portfolios these dicision makers and thier immediate families own and the potential conflict of interest that seems never to be addressed in any media. The fact is that low to middle income australians are being sacrificed in our &#8220;not so lucky country&#8221;, and this is only the start, low income earners should be preparing for life on the street.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Ricci</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Ricci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 11:59:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dino,

My point has nothing to do with whether it is a good or bad investment. My point is that owning a home should be within anyone&#039;s reach if they hold down a full time job and work a good hard day.

By making incentives to invest in property - we are simply killing the chances of owning a home for the majority of Australians.

Now if trends continued for the next 20 years as in the last 20 (3 x average home price ), it would cost the average person over $100,000 per annum in repayments on an average home in Australia.

Now you can say average wages will increase, but you would be wrong, the figures have shown that average wages have only increases 25% over last 10 years.

Something is out of whack and needs to be corrected. Problem is everyone wants to use tiny little band-aids and no one wants to make hard decisions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dino,</p>
<p>My point has nothing to do with whether it is a good or bad investment. My point is that owning a home should be within anyone&#8217;s reach if they hold down a full time job and work a good hard day.</p>
<p>By making incentives to invest in property &#8211; we are simply killing the chances of owning a home for the majority of Australians.</p>
<p>Now if trends continued for the next 20 years as in the last 20 (3 x average home price ), it would cost the average person over $100,000 per annum in repayments on an average home in Australia.</p>
<p>Now you can say average wages will increase, but you would be wrong, the figures have shown that average wages have only increases 25% over last 10 years.</p>
<p>Something is out of whack and needs to be corrected. Problem is everyone wants to use tiny little band-aids and no one wants to make hard decisions.</p>
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		<title>By: Dino Livanidis</title>
		<link>http://www.business2.com.au/2009/11/dangerous-ideas-how-to-fix-real-estate/comment-page-1/#comment-7327</link>
		<dc:creator>Dino Livanidis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 10:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I fully understand what everyone is saying and yes it would be great for everyone to buy a property. But I think where you spoke about negative gearing not being worth the time to invest in, I think you would be wrong.
Investing in property can create an income for the rest of your life if you set it up correctly. If everyone thinks the Govt will be paying for the pension when they get to retirement, well I honestly hope but why take the chance?

You need to take care of yourself because no-one else will care about you or I when we retire. I have helped hundreds of clients get into property investment for a number of years now and I am proud to be able to give them the opportunity where down the track they will have some options to consider instead hoping the Govt will take care of them.

I believe everyone should invest in property for the long run, it&#039;s not a get rich quick vehicle but over years it will prove itself to make you money. There are many who will say that their property hasn’t made them any capital growth, well unfortunately there are areas and there are areas where you should invest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I fully understand what everyone is saying and yes it would be great for everyone to buy a property. But I think where you spoke about negative gearing not being worth the time to invest in, I think you would be wrong.<br />
Investing in property can create an income for the rest of your life if you set it up correctly. If everyone thinks the Govt will be paying for the pension when they get to retirement, well I honestly hope but why take the chance?</p>
<p>You need to take care of yourself because no-one else will care about you or I when we retire. I have helped hundreds of clients get into property investment for a number of years now and I am proud to be able to give them the opportunity where down the track they will have some options to consider instead hoping the Govt will take care of them.</p>
<p>I believe everyone should invest in property for the long run, it&#8217;s not a get rich quick vehicle but over years it will prove itself to make you money. There are many who will say that their property hasn’t made them any capital growth, well unfortunately there are areas and there are areas where you should invest.</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn Rogers</title>
		<link>http://www.business2.com.au/2009/11/dangerous-ideas-how-to-fix-real-estate/comment-page-1/#comment-7292</link>
		<dc:creator>Glenn Rogers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 05:55:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was supposed to be in the quotes - 

Let’s make another thing clear, in my mind, the only way middle Australia can succeed in owning a property is for state and federal governments to get their filthy, dirty, stinking, corrupt, incompetent hands out of the way of any consumer real estate transaction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was supposed to be in the quotes &#8211; </p>
<p>Let’s make another thing clear, in my mind, the only way middle Australia can succeed in owning a property is for state and federal governments to get their filthy, dirty, stinking, corrupt, incompetent hands out of the way of any consumer real estate transaction.</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn Rogers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glenn Rogers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 05:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;

Oh how true and spoken with the passion the subject deserves, couldn&#039;t have said it better myself.</description>
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<p>Oh how true and spoken with the passion the subject deserves, couldn&#8217;t have said it better myself.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter T</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 03:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Be careful with the cost of raising a child.

The biggest cost is the accommodation of the child. This may or may not be included in the line item. 

If it is included, you will have double counted this cost.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Be careful with the cost of raising a child.</p>
<p>The biggest cost is the accommodation of the child. This may or may not be included in the line item. </p>
<p>If it is included, you will have double counted this cost.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 02:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daniel, I feel sorry for you trying to break into the Sydney market. My wife and I both bought our first house in the outer Melbourne suburbs, a fair distance from the city and a lot further out than where we rented. I couldn&#039;t imagine buy a house by myself for the current prices, it was like a pipe dream. When I hear first home buyers paying $600k plus for a house I really wonder if they have thought it through. If one of the partners loses their job they are going to be in really serious financial strife. Are there really that many people earning $200k a year to pay for their $600k house?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel, I feel sorry for you trying to break into the Sydney market. My wife and I both bought our first house in the outer Melbourne suburbs, a fair distance from the city and a lot further out than where we rented. I couldn&#8217;t imagine buy a house by myself for the current prices, it was like a pipe dream. When I hear first home buyers paying $600k plus for a house I really wonder if they have thought it through. If one of the partners loses their job they are going to be in really serious financial strife. Are there really that many people earning $200k a year to pay for their $600k house?</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://www.business2.com.au/2009/11/dangerous-ideas-how-to-fix-real-estate/comment-page-1/#comment-7288</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 01:24:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terrific appraisal of the current market mate.  I live in Sydney (Ground zero) and I watch in complete horror at the debacle of the Australian property market unfold before my eyes.

My wife and I rent a modest 2 bedroom flat and currently raise 2 kids in it because we simply cannot get a foot into the market.  We are not stupid enough to pay $350k for an &#039;entry&#039; level home in the middle of nowhere with a 2 hour commute to the city because we knew what happened during the last recession when people were over committed.

The collusion between development groups, greedy councils and the wanna-be property millionairs out there have destroyed affordability in what is an essential commodity in today&#039;s society.

Why don&#039;t we start speculating on medicine or food for that matter?

This country is abhorrently corrupt in the way that vested interests have control of the policy makers who spout rubbish about the need to address this issue, but do absolutely nothing about it.

Whilst John Howard sewed the seeds for this disaster, it was Kevin Rudd who did absolutely nothing but completely ineffectual token gestures to fix the problem.  In this regard both Liberal and Labour are the enemy, but the populace has no choice but to give one or the other control with the current electated dictatorship of the Australian political system.

Meanwhile, my wife and I watch in despair as the house prices continue to climb out of reach and the policy makers all take turns saying they are serious about fixing the problem, whilst still busily increasing their own property portfolios.  Between the hypocracy of their hollow words about being honest, we&#039;re expected to ingore their gross conflict of interest on the matter and just accept that this is the new norm.

Australia is no longer for the working class Australians.  If you are an essential service worker on a fixed wage and cannot afford a home, you&#039;re a sucker and should have gotten a better paying job.

Australia has fallen victim to greed and corruption.  The notion of a &#039;fair go for all&#039; is a fantasy.  The government is too busy stuffing it&#039;s own pockets to care, knowing that you have to either vote liberal or mini-liberal.

I weep for the country I once loved...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terrific appraisal of the current market mate.  I live in Sydney (Ground zero) and I watch in complete horror at the debacle of the Australian property market unfold before my eyes.</p>
<p>My wife and I rent a modest 2 bedroom flat and currently raise 2 kids in it because we simply cannot get a foot into the market.  We are not stupid enough to pay $350k for an &#8216;entry&#8217; level home in the middle of nowhere with a 2 hour commute to the city because we knew what happened during the last recession when people were over committed.</p>
<p>The collusion between development groups, greedy councils and the wanna-be property millionairs out there have destroyed affordability in what is an essential commodity in today&#8217;s society.</p>
<p>Why don&#8217;t we start speculating on medicine or food for that matter?</p>
<p>This country is abhorrently corrupt in the way that vested interests have control of the policy makers who spout rubbish about the need to address this issue, but do absolutely nothing about it.</p>
<p>Whilst John Howard sewed the seeds for this disaster, it was Kevin Rudd who did absolutely nothing but completely ineffectual token gestures to fix the problem.  In this regard both Liberal and Labour are the enemy, but the populace has no choice but to give one or the other control with the current electated dictatorship of the Australian political system.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, my wife and I watch in despair as the house prices continue to climb out of reach and the policy makers all take turns saying they are serious about fixing the problem, whilst still busily increasing their own property portfolios.  Between the hypocracy of their hollow words about being honest, we&#8217;re expected to ingore their gross conflict of interest on the matter and just accept that this is the new norm.</p>
<p>Australia is no longer for the working class Australians.  If you are an essential service worker on a fixed wage and cannot afford a home, you&#8217;re a sucker and should have gotten a better paying job.</p>
<p>Australia has fallen victim to greed and corruption.  The notion of a &#8216;fair go for all&#8217; is a fantasy.  The government is too busy stuffing it&#8217;s own pockets to care, knowing that you have to either vote liberal or mini-liberal.</p>
<p>I weep for the country I once loved&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Barhoum</title>
		<link>http://www.business2.com.au/2009/11/dangerous-ideas-how-to-fix-real-estate/comment-page-1/#comment-7284</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Barhoum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 10:35:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This article is very true. Having owned an investment property for over twenty years I am only just beginning to realise the Double dipping the government is about to take advantage of when I sell my house. As an investment property it has not been too worthwhile. Banks also rub their hands with glee as they slowly but surely eat into your &quot;investment&quot; with what is called &quot;Interest&quot; and other fees. All of these do add up and have a negative effect on the final sale price (investors like to call it profit as I did). 

So does negative gearing really work in favour of the investor? In the long term it appears to be a favourable outcome, but at the end when the sale occurs and your negatively geared property is realised, then the true cost of the so called &quot;investment” appears, by then it is too late.

Having an investment property is a long term proposition and it is this longevity of investment which is concerning, Tax laws change, and no one can see into the future to know exactly what the consequences of these changes will be, in fact no one can even tell what the new tax laws will be, so really, investing long term leaves you at the mercy of others.

One thing i can be certain of is if that the economy is doing well and the real estate industry is flourishing, (leaving the poor poorer) there behind the scene is the Tax department (be it state, local or federal) conjuring up new plans to get their share, and I won&#039;t call it a Fair share either.

One has to be on the ball constantly , but how many average income earners have the money to throw around, to be able to buy a property and sell it when laws change or at the so called &quot;right time&quot; and then buy again and again and again. It is hard enough to own one roof over your head.

It goes to show that Investment properties do not necessarily always give a good return. Investment properties can tie up valuable sales turn over for Families who need homes to live in. Investment properties can inflate house prices to an unaffordable level. The longevity of the investment puts it at the mercy of unknown future forces and the final return may not be as good as one originally thought. It makes the average hard working Aussie suffer. 

Let me see, do I remember that good old saying I heard a million times when I was a Kid.....................Can someone help me, it was something about owning your own home.....was it &quot;THE GREAT AUSTRALIAN DREAM&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article is very true. Having owned an investment property for over twenty years I am only just beginning to realise the Double dipping the government is about to take advantage of when I sell my house. As an investment property it has not been too worthwhile. Banks also rub their hands with glee as they slowly but surely eat into your &#8220;investment&#8221; with what is called &#8220;Interest&#8221; and other fees. All of these do add up and have a negative effect on the final sale price (investors like to call it profit as I did). </p>
<p>So does negative gearing really work in favour of the investor? In the long term it appears to be a favourable outcome, but at the end when the sale occurs and your negatively geared property is realised, then the true cost of the so called &#8220;investment” appears, by then it is too late.</p>
<p>Having an investment property is a long term proposition and it is this longevity of investment which is concerning, Tax laws change, and no one can see into the future to know exactly what the consequences of these changes will be, in fact no one can even tell what the new tax laws will be, so really, investing long term leaves you at the mercy of others.</p>
<p>One thing i can be certain of is if that the economy is doing well and the real estate industry is flourishing, (leaving the poor poorer) there behind the scene is the Tax department (be it state, local or federal) conjuring up new plans to get their share, and I won&#8217;t call it a Fair share either.</p>
<p>One has to be on the ball constantly , but how many average income earners have the money to throw around, to be able to buy a property and sell it when laws change or at the so called &#8220;right time&#8221; and then buy again and again and again. It is hard enough to own one roof over your head.</p>
<p>It goes to show that Investment properties do not necessarily always give a good return. Investment properties can tie up valuable sales turn over for Families who need homes to live in. Investment properties can inflate house prices to an unaffordable level. The longevity of the investment puts it at the mercy of unknown future forces and the final return may not be as good as one originally thought. It makes the average hard working Aussie suffer. </p>
<p>Let me see, do I remember that good old saying I heard a million times when I was a Kid&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;Can someone help me, it was something about owning your own home&#8230;..was it &#8220;THE GREAT AUSTRALIAN DREAM&#8221;</p>
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