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		<title>Portals playing with fees?</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 23:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Peter Ricci</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Over the last few months it has become increasingly aware to me that Australia&#8217;s largest real estate portals are toying with the idea of playing with their fee structures charged to agents for advertising their vendors listings. Currently realestate.com.au charges a flat fee and domain.com.au charges fees dependant on your area (city or country) and [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Over the last few months it has become increasingly aware to me that Australia&#8217;s largest real estate portals are toying with the idea of playing with their fee structures charged to agents for advertising their vendors listings.</p>
<p>Currently <a href="http://www.realestate.com.au" title="REA Australia" target="_blank">realestate.com.au</a> charges a flat fee and <a href="http://www.domain.com.au" title="domain.com.au" target="_blank">domain.com.au</a> charges fees dependant on your area (city or country) and their so called &#8216;popularity&#8217; in these areas.</p>
<p>So why would they be doing this? Because they want to make it fairer? Guess again muchumbo, this is all about making more money for their companies/shareholders. You can argue that this is fair enough, as this is what they exist to do. Howeve, they have this opportunity only becuase agents support them and without these agents, they would not attract visitors and therefore 3rd party advertisers like banks and those pathetic what price my house websites.There are some valid arguments for maybe one of these models, but they have to tread very carefully.</p>
<p>So lets look at some current models and possible models or fees.</p>
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<p><strong>Area Pricing</strong><br />
Well put simple they charge you a certain fee based on population or region, such as city or country and in some cases their popularity within a region. The reason for this is the thought that city agents turn over much more stock than their country counterparts and therefore make more money. Well, of course this is true, but think a little about it.  John and Jill in a country town, also pay a lot less for renting or buying their offices, they pay a lot less for staff, they pay a lot less for advertising and have many cases have much less competition.So that throws that thinking out the window! The only reason <a href="http://www.domain.com.au" title="Domain" target="_blank">Domain</a> do this &#8211; is because they can where they have strengths. I do know of many agents that can play a little game with domain against <a href="http://www.realestate.com.au" title="REA Australia">realestate.com.au</a> and get pretty good discounts, so get them to sharpen their pencils. You could tell them that you are thinking of only going with only one portal (tougher times) and get the price down. Yes, <a href="http://www.domain.com.au" title="Domain" target="_blank">Domain.com.au</a> do deals!</p>
<p><strong>Set Monthly Fees</strong><br />
<a href="http://www.realestate.com.au" title="REA Australia" target="_blank">Realestate.com.au</a> currently use this system and it has served them well, everyone pays the same basic rate per month and can list as many properties as they like (obviously franchises get better deals). Prices have increased by around 15% per annum since they started ($150 per month) up to around $400 per month today.</p>
<p>After the debacle of the email problems from a few months ago, <a href="http://www.realestate.com.au" title="REA Australia" target="_blank">realestate.com.au</a> have lost a fair bot of faith from their agents and really have to work hard to gain their trust. The revelation that they wish to gain another 30-40% increase in revenues from agents over the next year will do nothing to help help them win the trust again. I simply cannot see agents accepting en-masse an increase of 30-40% per month without some serious extra benefits. However if they did, I doubt too many agents could do anything about it. My guess is that they will drop the base subscription and try to move everyone up to the next level and introduce another higher level of membership. This will mean all agents will get a logo next to their listings (WOW) and some extra benefits.</p>
<p>I received an email yesterday that told me that they considering a similar model to <a href="http://www.domain.com.au" title="Domain" target="_blank">domain.com.au</a> because they believed it was &#8220;fairer&#8221;. My guess is whatever they do, it will be to increase revenues, so do not be fooled into thinking you will be any better off under a new subscription offer. Again it will be all about extra $$.</p>
<p><strong>Per Listing Fee</strong><br />
This one is a simpler approach, you pay certain amount of money per listing whether you are in the country or city. The only difference is whether it is a basic listing or a premium listing and the price per property listing will be different depending on your subscription level. I do hate all these different levels of membership, but they are a fact of life &#8211; even the free sites are trying to work this in to make some money. This model actually gets rid of problems like agents listing the same property in multiple suburbs and also re-listing properties multiple times. It also creates a more level playing field going forward as many agents are closing multiple offices to lower overheads and doing more from a central office and this must effect REA&#8217;s bottom line in some way going forward.</p>
<p>Currently no major portal does this, although I think that this is a better option. It will be a reasonably high price per listing, and agents would have to get their calculators out to make sure it was worth their while. The one problem for a portal choosing this method is that they will be at the mercy of the market and how many listings that come on during different cycles, but with nearly 10 years of data, I am sure they would work it out in their favour.</p>
<p><strong>Free with paid features.</strong><br />
Currently <a href="http://www.myhome.com.au" title="MyHome" target="_blank">MyHome</a>  and <a href="http://www.homehound.com" title="Homehound" target="_blank">Homehound</a> offer free listing website with an option to upgrade your listings to feature listings. I am never a fan of this type of thing, but I do think Agents need to be on these sites at a basic level. Most of these get a fraction of the visitors of the big portals, but by supporting sites like these they will slowly build their visitor numbers as the sites. There are a few more of these around and some have some quite interesting models.</p>
<p><strong>Completely Free</strong><br />
With <a href="http://www.properazzi.cm" title="Properazzi" target="_blank">Properazzi</a>, <a href="http://base.google.om" title="Google Base">Google Base</a>, <a href="http://www.dothomes.com" title="DotHomes" target="_blank">Dothomes</a> coming so Australia sooner rather than later and of course <a href="http://www.myhome.com.au" title="MyHome" target="_blank">MyHome</a> (now free and gaining quite a few listings) it is not the time to be getting agents offside, so it will have to be a very measured approach to charging more or changing pricing models.</p>
<p>Whichever way portals do go, I think that agents would like to know what effect that it will have on their business and to be able to easily calculate that effect. Many agents across Australia are struggling in these times and whilst some pockets are still strong it is not gong to get any better in the short term being in the middle of the world-wide financial crisis.</p>
<p>Note: Simon Baker (Ex REA) has launched a new website called <a href="http://propertyportalwatch.com/" title="Portal Watch" target="_blank">Property Portal Watch</a></p>
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		<title>Why Google will change the real estate landscape.</title>
		<link>http://www.business2.com.au/2007/04/why-google-will-change-the-real-estate-landscape/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 22:53:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Peter Ricci</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[One only has to understand the way Google works to understand why real estate will play a major role in the future of this company. Google has made it clear that of a consumer or company wants to access information – they want to have the products and services that you use to get this [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One only has to understand the way Google works to understand why real estate will play a major role in the future of this company.</p>
<p>Google has made it clear that of a consumer or company wants to access information – they want to have the products and services that you use to get this information. Google traditionally do not charge the companies for providing this information as they make their considerable revenues by charging companies who want to advertise alongside this information.</p>
<p>Google Base started out as a tool more or less because of the popularity of craigslist.com, which today is remarkably popular more so because so many people are just so accustomed to the way it works in America.</p>
<p>Google has now realised just how popular ‘real estate’ has become in classified advertising and a decision has always been imminent in relation to how they will handle this data and make it available to consumers.</p>
<p>Today in America when you search Google for real estate we are seeing some initiatives which will surely be rolled out country by country in the coming months/years.</p>
<p>The idea is that instead of building a new website for real estate searching (which I am betting they do in the future) they are bringing property data results into the actual search results and allowing the consumer to refine their searches by listing type and suburbs and then retrieve those results within the main search engine.</p>
<p><a href="http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2007/04/homes-not-just-homepages.html">This is an official press release from Google</a></p>
<p><a href="http://base.google.com/base/help/realestate.html ">Uploading Options</a><br />
This site gives you/developers all the information you need to get ready for this in Australia. It will nearly be exactly the same as the US version, so it is a great primer.</p>
<p><a href="https://services.google.com/inquiry/listing_removal">Listing Removal Tools.</a><br />
If there is one thing that many of the new entrants into the market have had to understand it is the idea  of agents having to email/call you to remove listings gets a new entrant offside with agents more quicker than a ‘fake dawn service’.  Google have already thought of this and have provided the tools needed to do this.</p>
<p><strong>Google’s Stance</strong><br />
<em>“We believe that buyers just want to see the home that fits them best and that providers shouldn&#8217;t have to pay to show it to them. We don&#8217;t sell houses, deal with agents&#8217; compensation, or charge for leads. Our business is helping people find the information they&#8217;re looking for—when you have it, we send them directly to you.”</em></p>
<p>Another quote that I like and have been saying for years is <em>“We don&#8217;t charge for photos or offer &#8220;featured listings.&#8221; We believe that buyers just want to see the home that fits them best and that providers shouldn&#8217;t have to pay to show it to them. We don&#8217;t sell houses, deal with agents&#8217; compensation, or charge for leads. Our business is helping people find the information they&#8217;re looking for-when you have it, we send them directly to you.”</em></p>
<p>I wonder who these comments are directed at?</p>
<p><strong>The Old Way</strong><br />
Traditionally real estate portals have charged both ways. In the first instance they have charged real estate agents to advertise their properties on their real estate portals. In the two major cases with REA and Domain prices have risen by up to 400% in the past 7 years for agents to provide this data.</p>
<p>Once they became popular they started adding different types of listings such as featured properties and premium/platinum listings. This may mean a property gets more visits but does it mean it sells more listings? I doubt it. If a person wants to buy in Bronte they just do not look at the first page.</p>
<p>In the second instance once these portals have the agents property data and they have built a large consumer following they have then charged companies such as banks, insurance companies, property monitors to have their ads appear alongside agents listings.</p>
<p>Google’s entrance into this market will change all of this, prices will drop, but only when portals are forced to do this and this will have a direct correlation to how many agents have their sites or systems set up to take advantage of this. The incumbent portals now own or have relationships with the systems that feed this data and it will be interesting to see how quickly they implement these agents feeds.</p>
<p><strong>More Importantly</strong><br />
The most important things for agents to do today is to make sure they have their websites and systems set up to have all of their property data indexed when this service launches in Australia and New Zealand. I have been a strong advocate of agents controlling their own destiny by making sure that their own websites are ready for this so that when this launches their own websites will directly benefit.</p>
<p>If the same property is listed on yoursite/portals then Google will give the user a choice between which link they would like to follow to view the full property details.</p>
<p><strong>Partnerships</strong><br />
I would be surprised if Google played any favourites and I doubt even the muscle of News Ltd could stop or partner with Google Base. However, if Google enter this space you can be sure that Yahoo and MSN also do the same and you could argue that MyHome is well positioned if this was to occur as it is part owned by Microsoft.</p>
<p>This will place further pressure on REA and Domain, not so much in the short term but I do not think it is a long way off that we will start to see price hike freezes and possibly price drops.</p>
<p>If Google announced a separate search engine for real estate in Australia then this would be a huge blow to the incumbents and they would need to prove their relevance going forward and that means a complete re-think of the their online strategies.</p>
<p>3rd party advertisers such as bank would jump straight into the Google Real Estate search engine and this would also hit the incumbents pockets and I dare say share price.</p>
<p><strong>Finally</strong><br />
Soon I will not need to spray muesli at my screen when Google announced that they are indeed the ‘<strong>Google of Real Estate</strong>’. This is by no means the end of real estate portals but they will have to evolve to stay relevant. REA and Domain have proven that they can do it by building great online businesses, the next 5 years will truly test them to see whether or not they can stand the test of time and continue to be relevant</p>
<p>The wonderful thing about the Internet is that it is an open platform and unlike traditional media where consumers have little choices in many areas of Australia, the Internet yet again shows that you cannot own a medium you have no control over. Consumers are the judges and they can be a fickle crowd as many have found out recently.</p>
<p>Here are some very interesting links in relation to this article<br />
<a href="http://www.intuitionfuel.com/2007/04/google-should-become-the-new-real-estate-mls">Intuition Fuel </a><br />
<a href="http://www.futureofrealestatemarketing.com/another-hint-at-google-real-estate">Future of Real Estate<br />
Marketing</a><br />
<a href="http://www.searchenginejournal.com/google-onebox-real-estate-search/4687/">Online Journal</a> and <a href="http://www.searchenginejournal.com/google-base-sightings-in-google-real-estate-results/3164/">here</a>.</p>
<p><strong>Google</strong><br />
<a href="http://www.google.com/intl/en/events/realestatetools/index.html">Tools for Real Estate Professionals</a></p>
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		<title>Getting ready for Google Base!</title>
		<link>http://www.business2.com.au/2007/03/googel-sitemaps-compliance/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2007 20:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Peter Ricci</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Without a doubt Google will soon be launching Google Base in Australia, a FREE classifieds site that will hurt sites like Ebay/Trading Post and many other classifieds websites that many of Australia largest companies have invested heavily in. Google Base is NOT what I have been talking about in relation to Google launching a real [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Without a doubt Google will soon be launching <a href="http://base.google.com/base" title="Google Base" target="_blank">Google Base</a> in Australia, a FREE classifieds site that will hurt sites like <a href="http://www.ebay.com.au" title="Ebay" target="_blank">Ebay</a>/<a href="http://www.tradingpost.com.au" title="Trading Post" target="_blank">Trading Post</a> and many other classifieds websites that many of Australia largest companies have invested heavily in.</p>
<p><a href="http://base.google.com/base" title="Google Base" target="_blank">Google Base</a> is NOT what I have been talking about in relation to Google launching a real estate portal world-wide, but it is a good start to get your listings on a global website.</p>
<p>So what do you need to do to make sure your agency is ready? In short standards based websites with a good database like the free and powerful MySQL and PostgreSQL databases are the easiest to configure. You can send feeds of data on a daily basis to Google Base as long as it does to exceed the daily quota (which only large portals would do). The second thing you will need to do is to define how your property data is defined.</p>
<p>A great start would be making sure your website is <a href="http://www.google.com/webmasters/sitemaps/ " title="Google Sitemaps" target="_blank">Google Sitemaps</a> compliant. This basically is a new standard that Google, Yahoo and MSN search engines use to index your websites, it defines by XML every single page of your site and ensures that all of those pages are indexed in the search engines. If your website is sitemaps compliant the <a href="http://www.google.com/webmasters/sitemaps/ " title="Google Sitemaps" target="_blank">Google Sitemaps</a> software will let you know of all of the errors of your site.</p>
<p>As an example this websites <a href="http://www.google.com/webmasters/sitemaps/ " title="Google Sitemaps" target="_blank">Google Sitemaps</a> compliant page is  <a href="http://business2.com.au/sitemap.xml" title="Business2 Sitemap" target="_blank">http://business2.com.au/sitemap.xml</a> and this is a document that describes all of the pages of this site. <a href="http://www.google.com/webmasters/sitemaps/ " title="Google Sitemaps" target="_blank">Google</a>, <a href="http://siteexplorer.search.yahoo.com" title="Yahoo Site Explorer" target="_blank">Yahoo</a> and <a href="www.webmasterworld.com/msn_microsoft_search/3142168.htm" title="MSN Sitemaps" target="_blank">MSN</a> have search engine robots that crawl each and every page and index these results in their respective search engines, so if you have 200 property listings and another 40 pages of data on your site you would more than likely have 240 page links in this document.</p>
<p>If you do not know if your website is compliant, then it isn&#8217;t- this is because most web developers do not care to go to these lengths, but don&#8217;t be worried, if your site is developed correctly it should only take a day or so at most for your developer to get it set-up.</p>
<p>If you have predominantly flash website it may take a few days longer (maybe a week) and if you have a framed based website (like many REA/Just Listed/ or Domain have developed over the years, then forget it &#8211; it is impossible to do because the data is not yours as all pages just link to their websites.</p>
<p><strong>What Now?</strong><br />
Google Base already has a specification for identifying data that you send to them. You can set it up just like you do when you send (if you send) data to <a href="http://realestate.com.au" title="REA Australia" target="_blank">Realestate.com.au</a>. If you are a franchise ask your franchise technology arm if they are going to support this and ask them when it will be ready (more than likely they will just say yes to shut you up). The best way to do it is to automatically feed property data, so you do not have yet another website update your property data on.</p>
<p>Send this primer to your developers and get it ready. <a href="http://code.google.com/apis/base/starting-out.html" title="Google Primer" target="_blank">http://code.google.com/apis/base/starting-out.html</a></p>
<p><strong>Why Not?</strong><br />
Google Base will not differentiate between a private seller and an agency, they do not care who the data comes from as long as it is legitimate and formatted correctly. Now if you do not want to be associated with a site that supports private advertising then this is not for you. But you could also say the same for <a href="http://selfservice.domain.com.au/public/placead.aspx" title="Domain Private" target="_blank">Domain.com.au</a> and as the market grows do not think REA will not also allow private advertising in the future &#8211; if Google launches a stand alone real estate search engine this will also allow private advertising and REA will be forced to open up as it may feel that it is being challenged &#8211; then again it may feel it will get more mileage out of promoting the fact that Google Real Estate supports private sellers and REA doesn&#8217;t &#8211; who knows?</p>
<p><strong>Why?</strong><br />
Simply put &#8211; the exercise of getting your website Google Sitemaps compliant is only going to help you anyway, it will also help your web developer better understand the Internet and how it can serve its clients (you) better.</p>
<p><strong>Finally</strong><br />
So, if you are getting your website re-developed then make sure it is 100% Google Sitemaps Compliant 100% &#8211; do not even think about not having it compliant as you will pay a heavy search engine price. If your web developer does not know how to do it &#8211; then dump them and get someone who does.</p>
<p>Here is another tip &#8211; please dump Flash altogether &#8211; its time has passed, I am sorry but it is annoying at best. If you must have Flash have only tiny pieces, never, ever, ever, ever, ever have a splash page.</p>
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