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Glenn Batten

REA Hypocrisy?

REA Hypocrisy?

Giving Private Sellers access to list their property on realestate.com.au has been a very hot topic recently. I first posted about the issue back in April and Realestate.com.au issued a Private Selling Policy on the 28th of May which further defined the rules and which Peter posted on.

In this policy, REA state that their “business model focuses upon licensed real estate agents as our primary customers”. It also states the “entity does not obtain at least the range of agent services set out above, REA will consider that such a listing is a “private listing”” and that “REA has made the decision not to allow private listings on its website”

However this is where the Hypocrisy starts as one hand forgot to tell the other what it was doing. REA forgot to tell Hubonline just what the rules are and even though REA owns and operates both realestate.com.au and hubonline they are working against each other.

Hubonline created the website for www.myhomeisforsale.com.au which in turn uploads and continues to upload their listings to realestate.com.au but these listings are in clear breach of realestate.com.au’s “Private Selling Policy”.

From the website of www.myhomeisforsale.com.au – “My Home Is For Sale is a professional property advocacy company which holds a real estate license.  We work with you to sell your home, providing you with the tools to sell your home without paying agents fees.”

When you see realestate.com.au’s sister company is guilty of flouting the rules, you can understand why nobody else in the past seemed to have been forced to follow the rules and stop uploading private sales.

So what does all this mean..?? First of all, let be clear… you can’t blame websites like www.myhomeisforsale.com.au and the others. They are just trying to make a buck and if REA does not enforce its own rules you can understand why they continue to upload private sellers to the system. In fact given that it was hubonline that built their website you could argue that it was given some sort of implied approval at least. In fact, if that website turns out to be pointless for their business model I reckon they should be able to ask for their money back as Hubonline should have known the concept breached REA’s rules.

A few of the comments in the other posts have focussed on the ACCC getting involved with this whole issue based on anti-competitive grounds. Till now I personally thought that was stretching it but when an REA business builds a website that is outside of the rules of another REA business, then there may be an anti-competitive case to answer after all.

One things is for sure….  Websites like www.happeningrealestate.com.au and www.place2live.com.au which I mentioned in the first article have had to change their offerings substantially. There products they offer are vastly different that those they promoted in April. They are now marketing themselves only as discount real estate agents and are not offering a service for private sellers. From this I can only conclude that realestate.com.au is now actively enforcing the rules right around the country but to be open and fair they need to have their own people follow the same rules or else someone might argue that it is anti-competitive!

Naturally this issue polarises opinions especially when you have some serious money involved. Real estate agents watched their impact on realestate.com.au being diluted with more and more private sellers popping up every day. REA had $1,000  per month per client on the line. Just  www.myhomeisforsale.com.au had over 200 clients being charged $295 up front and then $79 per month so private sellers represented a fantastic income stream for those online agents. No wonder the FSBO sites were so upset!

REA made its bed with an agent only, no private sales policy and in the end they had to lie in it because agents helped to create realestate.com.au where it is today. The moral and right thing to do was to start properly enforcing their own rules again, which to their credit they did.. after a push, a shove and a nudge.

I suspect that this issue highlighted has fallen through the cracks and will be rectified shortly,  as they seem to have fixed the problem with the other companies. Whilst they may not have cleaned up every incidence just yet it is probably well on the way.

The issue of private sellers on realestate.com.au will probably raise its head again one day. As an agent my preference is that private sellers be kept off the portal.. but IF it was ever to change, I really dont think it will make that much of a difference. Some.. but not much. I know many agents will consider that as blasphemy but lets look at it another way… Google’s entry (Where the bloody hell are you?) could mean that they become a major player in presenting listings to prospective purchasers and anybody can upload to Google Base.

This all got me thinking about what everyone’s preferences would be over the matter…How many would agents would accept private sellers if www.realestate.com.au decided to allow them? Would love to hear your thoughts!

Feel free to forward this around via email/twitter/facebook etc and ask real estate agents and salespeople to complete the poll.

EDIT: It seems that the deadline for the updated Private Selling Policy is still to come which goes a long way to explain why www.myhomeisforsale.com has not been updated. I think we can expect to see policy enforcement very shortly … Glenn  26/7/09

Peter Ricci

Google Analytics API Launched!

Google Analytics API Launched!

Google Analytics is used by just about every major website in Australia, it is easily the most popular analytics programs out there. Now it is pretty much game over for all of the paid ones as Google have announced an API for this product.

Yes, companies pay a fortune to have Nielsen NetRatings code inserted and for them to tell the advertising world just how amazing their visitor numbers are (last count REA had nearly 5 million unique visitors to their site – which I will seriously question once REA get past 22 million).

However for the average Joe, Google Analytics is all they ever need to seriously measure their websites performance. If you can be bothered (and you should be) you can find out so much about the success or otherwise of your business by logging into your Google Analytics account or by setting your Analytics to send you a weekly report. [Yes, of course you must be registered and yes of course you must have the code set.]

Now Google has set their systems FREE and we are in for a world of fun. You can now get data directly from your Google and mash it together for your own purposes. This is what is great about API’s, you set the data free and you will be amazed at what is developed.

I am sure all of the property feed providers such HubOnline, MyDesktop and Portplus will integrate this data into their own systems in the near future. Already at launch Google has a number of examples. Here is an excerp from their blog article.

For example, how would you like to access Google Analytics from your phone? Now you can, with this Android application from Actual Metrics. How about accessing Analytics from your desktop? It’s here from Desktop-Reporting.

And if you’re interested in seeing how integrating Google Analytics can enhance your own business take a look at these examples. MailChimp has integrated Google Analytics into their email marketing platform and ShufflePoint® provides a service for adding Google Analytics data into PowerPoint® presentations. See how youcalc has created apps that allow you to mashup Google Analytics, AdWords, Salesforce.com and other enterprise data.

Check out more customer examples on our developer site. These apps demonstrate only some of the creative possibilities and we know you’ll discover other interesting ways to use the Analytics API.

I have long been scornful of Nielson and other ratings agencies because they only include less than 0.5% of the websites in their metrics. If Google really wanted to – they could release a FREE version of all of the website data across many industries and pretty much make this 1990′s business model redundant overnight.

In the meantime, have some fun with your data, play around and let us know some ideas that you think could be built with this data.

Peter Ricci

Revamped HubOnline launched

Revamped HubOnline launched

HubOnline launched their revamped system aiming to clean up the interface to make it easier for their clients to manage their online listings and contact management system (CRM).

HubOnline is a wholly owned subsidiary of realestate.com.au and therefore have the unenviable task of trying to combine all of their offerings into one system. For the most part this new overhaul makes for a cleaner interface, although under the hood it looks pretty much the same as the old system. ( I may be wrong)

That being said, there have been some nice additions, particularly in the reporting and navigation. Help and Support seems to have been better placed throughout the site. Overall the new system looks feels alot better, and hopefully for HubOnline this will lead to a growth in the use of their systems as they face stiff competition from MyDesktop, Portplus and other systems.

The biggest problem HubOnline will have in the future is convincing REA to reinvest in this company as they have apparently cut back on staff in the past months at a time when they were starting to publish some nice work.

You can download the full release here [PDF File 870 kb]

Dave Platter

Some changes at HubOnline from realestate.com.au

Some changes at HubOnline from realestate.com.au

My apologies for not posting in some time. Today, I do have some news to share.

Rather than make business2 readers wait until this seeps out publicly, I’m going to give you a heads up on two things that are happening at realestate.com.au today.

I’m sorry that I probably won’t be able to participate in the comment stream today. But, I didn’t want that to keep me from telling you about this.
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Glenn Batten

A Quick Look at Hubonline’s CRM Capabilities

A Quick Look at Hubonline’s CRM Capabilities

Peter posted recently about RealFutureCRM which is a US company specialising in CRM for the Real Estate Industry. That post created some hot discussion about solutions already available in Australia and claims that they were being overlooked. Representatives from a number of Australian companies chimed in with posts in support of their own product.

Mo raised that fact that Hubonline, owned by REA, was built on SugarCRM.

Eddie Cetin, the National Business Development Manager for HubOnline contacted me and confirmed that their new version (v2) that had just been completed was built on SugarCRM. I had a demo of the old version of Hubonline last year so Eddie invited me to preview the new version when he flew to the Gold Coast next.

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